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		<title>Comment on A New Era for Worker Ownership, 5 Years in the Making by Los Links: Hacked Phones, Exciting Times and Labor&#039;s Future - Denver Newspaper Guild</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Los Links: Hacked Phones, Exciting Times and Labor&#039;s Future - Denver Newspaper Guild]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 13:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] A New Era for Worker Ownership, 5 Years in the Making &#124; Talking Union [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Labor Wrestles With Its Future by Los Links: Hacked Phones, Exciting Times and Labor&#039;s Future - Denver Newspaper Guild</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Los Links: Hacked Phones, Exciting Times and Labor&#039;s Future - Denver Newspaper Guild]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 13:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Labor Wrestles With Its Future &#124; Talking Union [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on CHINA IN REVOLT:  A Labor-Community Roundtable by Angry Birds Online Spielen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angry Birds Online Spielen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 05:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good web site you&#039;ve got here.. Itís hard to find high-quality writing like yours nowadays. I truly appreciate people like you! Take care!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good web site you&#8217;ve got here.. Itís hard to find high-quality writing like yours nowadays. I truly appreciate people like you! Take care!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Apply to Join the 2013 Change Walmart Summer by May 14, 2013 War on Workers News</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[May 14, 2013 War on Workers News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 17:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] This summer, the national movement to make change at Walmart will take a giant step forward. In the tradition of the 1964 Freedom Summer and the UFW’s grape boycott, a deeply committed group of labor, student and community supporters will spend the summer building local OUR Walmart and Making Change at Walmart (MCAW) support teams across the country that demonstrate the broad, growing movement calling on Walmart to change.  The program will run from June 15th – Labor Day. Read the source story here. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This summer, the national movement to make change at Walmart will take a giant step forward. In the tradition of the 1964 Freedom Summer and the UFW’s grape boycott, a deeply committed group of labor, student and community supporters will spend the summer building local OUR Walmart and Making Change at Walmart (MCAW) support teams across the country that demonstrate the broad, growing movement calling on Walmart to change.  The program will run from June 15th – Labor Day. Read the source story here. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Labor Wrestles With Its Future by Ken Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 15:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got a kick out of the remark....

&quot;...but because workers can’t form unions any more&quot;

....because the fact is that they CAN form a union...quite easily and virtually at any time they want.  There&#039;s not a single solitary thing stopping them.  However, I suspect that the remark concerns itself more with the CONSEQUENCES of forming a union rather than any supposed outright prohibition against it.

Face it; workers have seen what unions have done to employment opportunities in this country over the last few decades.  Millions upon millions of union members have lost their jobs....NOT because they were fired on the basis of their membership in a union, but rather because the grasping demands of the unions that &quot;represented&quot; them either forced their employers out of business, or drove them to take their employment opportunities elsewhere.

So let&#039;s put the blame where it belongs.  Workers can FORM a union quite easily.  What they CAN&#039;T do, however, is find a domestic union so-formed that is able to function rationally and not undermine their job opportunities.

Seems to me that, until unions find a way to make a POSITIVE contribution to the labor environment, there will be little in the way of long-term &quot;union formation&quot;.  As it stands today, the movement is feeding on itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a kick out of the remark&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;but because workers can’t form unions any more&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;.because the fact is that they CAN form a union&#8230;quite easily and virtually at any time they want.  There&#8217;s not a single solitary thing stopping them.  However, I suspect that the remark concerns itself more with the CONSEQUENCES of forming a union rather than any supposed outright prohibition against it.</p>
<p>Face it; workers have seen what unions have done to employment opportunities in this country over the last few decades.  Millions upon millions of union members have lost their jobs&#8230;.NOT because they were fired on the basis of their membership in a union, but rather because the grasping demands of the unions that &#8220;represented&#8221; them either forced their employers out of business, or drove them to take their employment opportunities elsewhere.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s put the blame where it belongs.  Workers can FORM a union quite easily.  What they CAN&#8217;T do, however, is find a domestic union so-formed that is able to function rationally and not undermine their job opportunities.</p>
<p>Seems to me that, until unions find a way to make a POSITIVE contribution to the labor environment, there will be little in the way of long-term &#8220;union formation&#8221;.  As it stands today, the movement is feeding on itself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Labor Wrestles With Its Future by ibewwolf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ibewwolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 03:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Organized labor made a mistake back in  the 1950&#039;s when they did not form their own political party and got in bed with the Democrats. All they get now is lip service from the Democrats. The AFL-CIO has unfortunately decided to pander to illegal aliens something many union members are opposed to. So they have not only lost the support of their own members but those of many working class Americans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Organized labor made a mistake back in  the 1950&#8242;s when they did not form their own political party and got in bed with the Democrats. All they get now is lip service from the Democrats. The AFL-CIO has unfortunately decided to pander to illegal aliens something many union members are opposed to. So they have not only lost the support of their own members but those of many working class Americans.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Labor Wrestles With Its Future by dcampbell1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dcampbell1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 03:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course I have.  I am Irish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I have.  I am Irish.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Labor Wrestles With Its Future by Kevin Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Boston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 03:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ever heard of the Molly Maguires?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever heard of the Molly Maguires?</p>
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		<title>Comment on SEIU Wins Again at Kaiser, But Militant Minority Grows by Sherry Minson</title>
		<link>http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/seiu-wins-again-at-kaiser-but-militant-minority-grows/#comment-20348</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sherry Minson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 23:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, &quot;Pre-election assessments, done systematically and in multiple ways by NUHW-CNA supporters&quot;, were...wrong.  &quot;What strategy now?&quot;
How about respecting the will of the majority that SEIU remain the bargaining representative of Kaiser workers?  How about supporting your colleagues rather than continuing to do things that can only weaken the power and unity of the bargaining unit? How about, you know, actually getting a contract for the Kaiser workers that NUHW has represented for three years without getting one instead of repeating the mantra about the possibility of future SEIU concessions?  Hey, how about renouncing raiding tactics altogether and concentrating on organizing the unorganized?

Elections, as they say, have consequences.  There is something very Tea Party about the NUHW supporters&#039; insistence on clinging to the guns of  opposition and the religion of Rosselli.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, &#8220;Pre-election assessments, done systematically and in multiple ways by NUHW-CNA supporters&#8221;, were&#8230;wrong.  &#8220;What strategy now?&#8221;<br />
How about respecting the will of the majority that SEIU remain the bargaining representative of Kaiser workers?  How about supporting your colleagues rather than continuing to do things that can only weaken the power and unity of the bargaining unit? How about, you know, actually getting a contract for the Kaiser workers that NUHW has represented for three years without getting one instead of repeating the mantra about the possibility of future SEIU concessions?  Hey, how about renouncing raiding tactics altogether and concentrating on organizing the unorganized?</p>
<p>Elections, as they say, have consequences.  There is something very Tea Party about the NUHW supporters&#8217; insistence on clinging to the guns of  opposition and the religion of Rosselli.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Even in Bankruptcy, Airlines Cash In by Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 17:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should be talking about New World Order and how workers can organize to stop it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should be talking about New World Order and how workers can organize to stop it.</p>
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